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Aircraft down nr Abergavenny (12 May)

PostPosted:Sun May 12, 2019 12:59 pm
by Dave W
(BBC) A40 closed.

Fingers crossed.

BBC wrote:Eyewitnesses on social media have suggested no cars were hit and all those on board the aircraft have survived.

Re: Aircraft down nr Abergavenny (12 May)

PostPosted:Sun May 12, 2019 1:05 pm
by MikeB
It was a Cirrus, 3 occupants rescued from burning aircraft which ended up inverted on central reservation of A40.

Re: Aircraft down nr Abergavenny (12 May)

PostPosted:Sun May 12, 2019 1:45 pm
by PeteSpencer
Do Cirruses have a kind of fireman’s switch prominently marked on the outside for this kind of situation to protect rescuers from the unignited rocket ?

Or do you approach an inverted burning Cirrus at some major risk?

Good to hear occupants all got out.

Peter

Re: Aircraft down nr Abergavenny (12 May)

PostPosted:Sun May 12, 2019 1:46 pm
by Trent772
My word, these Cirri are dropping like flies - glad they weren't seriously hurt, looks like some good pilotage.

Re: Aircraft down nr Abergavenny (12 May)

PostPosted:Sun May 12, 2019 1:49 pm
by Sir Morley Steven
Any evidence that Cirruses are dropping like flies?

Re: Aircraft down nr Abergavenny (12 May)

PostPosted:Sun May 12, 2019 2:04 pm
by Lefty
Sir Morley Steven wrote:Any evidence that Cirruses are dropping like flies?

No - it’s just the old prejudices being regurgitated.

Re: Aircraft down nr Abergavenny (12 May)

PostPosted:Sun May 12, 2019 3:45 pm
by Dave W
From the latest reports, including images of completely burnt out aircraft straddling the central barrier on the A40, it seems that two passing motorists were instrumental in extracting the pilot and at least one pax from the inverted cabin. Well done, indeed.

Social media is saying a Guernsey registered SR22T.

Re: Aircraft down nr Abergavenny (12 May)

PostPosted:Sun May 12, 2019 4:46 pm
by Talkdownman
Any similarities to this?

Re: Aircraft down nr Abergavenny (12 May)

PostPosted:Sun May 12, 2019 5:04 pm
by Kittyhawk
SR22T 2-RORO. Departed Denham. From FR24 routed via OX and GST at 2400'. At Monmouth descended to 1500'. Last trace 1100', high ROD just SW of Abergavenny airfield.
I know little of the Cirrus. Is a 650m grass stip a usual destination for one, or is it coincidental where it was?

Re: Aircraft down nr Abergavenny (12 May)

PostPosted:Sun May 12, 2019 5:49 pm
by tomshep
Hit wires and inverted, apparently, so probably unlikely that PIC was familiar with the location. A narrow squeak.

Re: Aircraft down nr Abergavenny (12 May)

PostPosted:Sun May 12, 2019 5:52 pm
by Lefty
A 650m grass strip is not the usual habitat for an SR22T, the handbook recommends a minimum of 800m tarmac.

However 650m should not be a problem for a pilot who is experienced on type, and has developed the correct short field technique.

We regularly use 550-650 m grass strips - and have used 450m of tarmac in an SR22T.

Re: Aircraft down nr Abergavenny (12 May)

PostPosted:Sun May 12, 2019 6:10 pm
by Jonzarno
Lefty wrote:A 650m grass strip is not the usual habitat for an SR22T, the handbook recommends a minimum of 800m tarmac.

However 650m should not be a problem for a pilot who is experienced on type, and has developed the correct short field technique.

We regularly use 550-650 m grass strips - and have used 450m of tarmac in an SR22T.


Yes: I landed mine last year with two passengers on the 600m grass strip at East Kirkby without any problem.

Re: Aircraft down nr Abergavenny (12 May)

PostPosted:Sun May 12, 2019 6:45 pm
by PeteSpencer
So, then Cirrus owners is there a warning sign on the outside to alert rescuers to a downed Cirrus that there is an unexploded bomb inside that might maim or kill them?

Peter :roll:

Re: Aircraft down nr Abergavenny (12 May)

PostPosted:Sun May 12, 2019 6:50 pm
by Lefty
No. Which is probably why the fire service haven’t attempted to move the wreckage yet.

Re: Aircraft down nr Abergavenny (12 May)

PostPosted:Sun May 12, 2019 7:10 pm
by shortstripper
Not sure about dropping like flies, but I don't remember hearing about so many of one type coming to grief in such a short space of time as the Cirrus? Maybe it's the fact that they have a chute, so there is a choice to try and land or just bang out that mean more do the latter and therefore get reported?

I'm not saying they're less or more safe, just pointing out that I see more reports of this type downed than any other. Obviously this case wasn't a chute deploy and I'm glad they're all reported to be fine.

SS