[foxmoth]

Be very careful if using only warm/hot water on a cold-soaked airframe, if it refreezes on the lifting or control surfaces, or in a nook/cranny, it might get interesting.

I believe I cautioned against this in my first post! And definitely do not use the water directly for this reason. Even large aircraft that have been properly deiced have to be aware of subsequent problems which is why they have holdover times.

[PeteSpencer]

My abiding nightmare is taking off on a clear day through slush only to find at 4000ft at -4 degrees the slush has frozen the wheels into the wheel wells.

Peter

[Lockhaven]

My abiding nightmare is taking off on a clear day through slush only to find at 4000ft at -4 degrees the slush has frozen the wheels into the wheel wells.

Peter

There is a procedure for that

[Flintstone]

Be very careful if using only warm/hot water on a cold-soaked airframe, if it refreezes on the lifting or control surfaces, or in a nook/cranny, it might get interesting.

I believe I cautioned against this in my first post!.

I thought your post was referring to the melted frost/ice, I was thinking more of people employing the more common technique of a bucketful. Both have the same potential but the latter is probably more likely. Has been known to freeze car doors (ask me how I know).

Anyway, those are my two posts for 2019, I'll be off.

[AndyR]

My abiding nightmare is taking off on a clear day through slush only to find at 4000ft at -4 degrees the slush has frozen the wheels into the wheel wells.

Peter

There is a procedure for that

As I found out, the first time I took off from a slushy runway....

[ChrisRowland]

What is it?

[Lockhaven]

What is it?

What ?

[ChrisRowland]

The process for determining that your wheels are frozen up with slush.

Is there something more sophisticated than landing and discovering that the wheels are locked?

My experience is tugging at Wycombe last winter and getting the wheels clogged with mud. Braking wasn't a problem, driving out of the mud was, but finding a way to clean the frozen mud out of the wheels with nothing but very cold water was a challenge.

[Nick]

Drink plenty of tea......

[PeteSpencer]

What is it?

What ?

Oh another bleedin’ comedian

Care to share the procedure you alluded to in response to my post with the rest of us ignorami ?

Peter

[foxmoth]

If you operate a retractable I am surprised this was not part of your training, once airborne you cycle the gear at least three times which should dislodge any slush picked up on take off.

[Sir Morley Steven]

We use killfrost after a rubber broom.
The fire crew have de-icer for non members of my club. I believe it is a fiver a pop so cheaper than two cans of Halfords de-icer.
But of course the best de-icer is the sun while you are having a latte.

[eltonioni]

Drink plenty of tea......

And the ladies?

[AndyR]

We keep the gear down a lot longer after getting airborne to potentially blow any water away and avoid any water left in the wheel bays dripping down once closed and freezing the gear doors shut.

[Paul_Sengupta]

As I found out, the first time I took off from a slushy runway....

What is it?

It's a runway with slush on it, but that's not important right now.