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Mull of Kintyre Chinook Accident (1994)

PostPosted:Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:42 pm
by Josh
For those of you who may recall this accident and the awful MoD stitch-up of the operating crew, they are now trying to dispose of some of the records from the original inquiry.

There is a petition running to get the government to reconsider.

Re: Mull of Kintyre Chinook Accident (1994)

PostPosted:Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:24 pm
by PeteSpencer
Signed:
I remember the accident well and the tireless efforts by the pilots' relatives , in the face of merciless government obfuscation, to get their names cleared.

Such a brilliant story of triumph over official lies and concealment should always be available in full to all and not conveniently 'buried' for ever by partial destruction of the records.

The whole miserable case was a credit to the families' tenacity.

C'mon forumites, think about it.

Peter :wink:

Re: Mull of Kintyre Chinook Accident (1994)

PostPosted:Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:26 pm
by romille
Signed.

Re: Mull of Kintyre Chinook Accident (1994)

PostPosted:Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:32 pm
by johnm
Don't need to think, it involves poking HMG with a sharp stick, what's not to like :-) Signed.

Re: Mull of Kintyre Chinook Accident (1994)

PostPosted:Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:39 pm
by G-JWTP
Done

G-JWTP

Re: Mull of Kintyre Chinook Accident (1994)

PostPosted:Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:49 pm
by Kemble Pitts
Done.

Scandalous episode, people should have gone to prison.

Re: Mull of Kintyre Chinook Accident (1994)

PostPosted:Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:18 pm
by MikeW
+1

Re: Mull of Kintyre Chinook Accident (1994)

PostPosted:Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:23 pm
by FrankS
+1

Re: Mull of Kintyre Chinook Accident (1994)

PostPosted:Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:33 pm
by Cowshed
+1

Re: Mull of Kintyre Chinook Accident (1994)

PostPosted:Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:36 pm
by joe-fbs
Done.

Flight safety investigation done properly must be defended and recorded.

I hope that the A400M flight test crew families see an accident report one day. Its concealment by the Spanish and / or Airbus is a disgrace.

Re: Mull of Kintyre Chinook Accident (1994)

PostPosted:Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:46 pm
by johncondor
"Scandalous episode, people should have gone to prison."

In my view they should still go to prison. There have been far too many deaths for the same reasons since. e.g C130, Nimrod, Sea King, Tornado and Hawk

Re: Mull of Kintyre Chinook Accident (1994)

PostPosted:Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:09 pm
by Dave Phillips
Hmmmm, I think we need to be careful when linking some of the fatalities directly with the Airworthiness issue. For example, the original furore surrounding the Mull accident was due to the RAF not following it’s own extremely stringent rules regarding the ‘judgement’ of Gross Negligence. As part of the case to cast doubt (ie overturn the Gross Negligence finding), the airworthiness issue was brought to the fore. Those of us who spent a long time on the periphery of the event tend to agree that the crew ‘probably’ got it wrong but there wasn’t unequivocal evidence; there was doubt. Of course, the stone turned-over by the airworthiness issue ultimately brought far greater concerns.

My point - the Aiworthiness scandal is most definitely a scandal but we need to be careful when making direct links between that and some fatalities, unless one wishes to present the singular argument that the aircraft shouldn’t have been airborne in the first place. For sure, there was a direct airworthiness link for Nimrod and Sean Cunningham’s ejection. Some of the other events don’t necessarily have a direct link.

Re: Mull of Kintyre Chinook Accident (1994)

PostPosted:Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:24 pm
by vintage ATCO
I don't disagree with you, Dave, but the point here is the records should be archived at National Archives, Kew, and not destroyed. Then, in the future, they should be released into the public domain, warts and all, for historians to study.

Re: Mull of Kintyre Chinook Accident (1994)

PostPosted:Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:26 pm
by Dave Phillips
Oh, absolutely. There is no way on this planet that anything to do with the Mull crash should be destroyed.

Re: Mull of Kintyre Chinook Accident (1994)

PostPosted:Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:37 pm
by patowalker
... they are now trying to dispose of some of the records from the original inquiry.


Any evidence of that?