Primarily for general aviation discussion, but other aviation topics are also welcome.
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By KeithM
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Gentoo wrote:Wasn't the flight arranged by Mr Henderson? Who would have been well aware it was a transportation flight, given that he was expecting payment, and (arguably) should, as a qualified pilot, have been aware of the possible legal issues.

...or is this going a bit too much into the 'no discussion prior to a court case' area?


Barcli beat me to the phrase that I was about to use!
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By PaulB
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The Admin Team wrote:Have split the posts relating to IMCR rating off from this main thread.


I was *just* about to ask for that. Thx.
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By Dave W
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They aren't very detail-oriented: RM hasn't been sentenced yet.

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By MarvinPA
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I've been hesitant to ask, as I'm no more than an interested bystander, but two things have struck me about this incident, and neither has been mentioned either here or on Prune.

1. According to my iPad moon app, there was a full moon that night, moonrise was 17.18 at Guernsey, so around three hours before the accident, so reasonably full. Would that be enough to give visibility of clouds? He is thought to have diverted round at least one cloud, so presumably he could see something.

2. Given his height changes, some of which were quite rapid climbs, does that indicate that ice was not, after all, the main problem, if indeed it was a problem at all? Oh, bugger, just thought, pitot heat not on.......

Right, be gentle with me......
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By johnm
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@MarvinPA as so often it depends, he might have been able to see some clouds, but not all, there's also the risk of misleading reflections and the goldfish bowl effect. Over water at night in weather with assorted clouds you would be instrument flying for sure. The relatively violent manoeuvres would suggest some level of distraction or disorientation...…


If airspeed indication was an issue that certainly wouldn't help, but power settings for cruise and descent would be known and ought to make that less important.
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By ganzic
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I don't think the moon light would have helped here... Specially if you have a second layer above or its on the other side of a CB.

But would be interesting to see if divers recorded positions of the switches. If any survived the impact.
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By Lockhaven
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ganzic wrote:I don't think the moon light would have helped here... Specially if you have a second layer above or its on the other side of a CB.

But would be interesting to see if divers recorded positions of the switches. If any survived the impact.


I believe recording of the switch positions would have been close to the top of the list for the ROV operators and divers :wink:
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By Gertie
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Lockhaven wrote:why do you need to carry a logbook ?

Because the club wants to check your log book for the 90 day rule and/or club currency rules before renting you an aircraft, and it's an avoidable walk back to the car compared to just shoving the log book back in your flight bag.
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By PaulB
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Is anyone likely to ask you (or Steve C above) to produce it to demonstrate currency prior to rental? Others may not have that luxury so need to have it available for inspection. I'd much prefer to leave it at home but don't for the aforementioned reason.
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