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Re: Lovely new livery for BA 747
PostPosted:Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:03 am
by Iceman
kanga wrote:I think the slogan of Aerotiques - MP3's new sideline - must be "please don't forget to lower your gear; but if you do, don't block our runway, and please let us have your propeller blades"
Funny you should say that. He's had most of my engine and the extremely bent prop. I'm still holding out for a TB20 cake stand
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Iceman
Re: Lovely new livery for BA 747
PostPosted:Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:58 pm
by Chris Martyr
plus7g wrote:I would be really surprised at that given the enormity of the task , the cost and the associated increased fuel burn......
Don't worry plus7g , it was only tongue in cheek .
True , you will never see HF aerials on B747 wingtips again . But removing winglets isn't the enormous task that it would at first appear .
The B744 can fly quite legally with either one , or both winglets removed . [ It's in the MEL/CDL]
You are of course correct in that there is indeed a performance penalty involved.
As for the 'blue rinse' toilets ,,,[yuck] Let's just confine nostalgia to the paint jobs , OK....
Re: Lovely new livery for BA 747
PostPosted:Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:05 pm
by Human Factor
Chris Martyr wrote:The B744 can fly quite legally with either one , or both winglets removed . [ It's in the MEL/CDL]
You are of course correct in that there is indeed a performance penalty involved.
Or sometimes not. On the standard -400, there is a penalty. On the 747-400SR (Japanese domestic services), they came out of the factory without them.
Re: Lovely new livery for BA 747
PostPosted:Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:09 pm
by Paul_Sengupta
Iceman wrote:Do BA seriously believe that anyone gets on a commercial aircraft because of the way that it is painted ?
I once went on the Ryanair 737-200 painted in Jaguar colours.
Just sayin'....
Re: Lovely new livery for BA 747
PostPosted:Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:58 am
by PaulSS
The B744 can fly quite legally with either one , or both winglets removed . [ It's in the MEL/CDL]
Can it have both removed? It's a genuine question because my saddo spotter brain seems to recall that one is okay (with a penalty) but you couldn't remove both, for some bizarre reason. I really hope I'm wrong and, therefore, not as sad as I think I might be
Re: Lovely new livery for BA 747
PostPosted:Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:15 am
by Chris Martyr
PaulSS wrote:Can it have both removed?
Paul , you are not a "saddo spotter" at all mate . In fact , I stand corrected coz you're spot-on .
Just checked our co. MEL/CDL , Ch. 57-28-01 and it is indeed only one winglet it can fly without .
We'd better stop now , otherwise the others will be calling us both saddo spotters ...
Re: Lovely new livery for BA 747
PostPosted:Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:18 am
by skydriller
@PaulSS , @Chris Martyr : You are hereby nominated as this week's sad spotters...
Re: Lovely new livery for BA 747
PostPosted:Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:28 am
by PaulSS
Re: Lovely new livery for BA 747
PostPosted:Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:41 am
by mmcp42
Chris Martyr wrote:PaulSS wrote:Can it have both removed?
Paul , you are not a "saddo spotter" at all mate . In fact , I stand corrected coz you're spot-on .
Just checked our co. MEL/CDL , Ch. 57-28-01 and it is indeed only one winglet it can fly without .
We'd better stop now , otherwise the others will be calling us both saddo spotters ...
but why not?
Re: Lovely new livery for BA 747
PostPosted:Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:57 am
by malcolmfrost
If you want sad spotter, I was watching Manhunt with Martin Clunes and despite all the old mobiles and cars, there was a 737-800 with the massive winglets.....
Re: Lovely new livery for BA 747
PostPosted:Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:22 am
by kanga
Paul_Sengupta wrote:..
I once went on the Ryanair 737-200 painted in Jaguar colours...
Beechcraft got there first
https://www.aviationphotocompany.com/p4 ... #h7a8485e1
Re: Lovely new livery for BA 747
PostPosted:Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:30 am
by plus7g
I know my post will get deleted , but not quite the same is it .... we are talking a company painting their aircraft in a retro ( for that same company) scheme.
Re: Lovely new livery for BA 747
PostPosted:Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:37 am
by JonathanB
Why would your post get deleted?
Re: Lovely new livery for BA 747
PostPosted:Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:57 pm
by Chris Martyr
skydriller wrote:@PaulSS , @Chris Martyr : You are hereby nominated as this week's sad spotters...
How can we be top of the forums Saddo League ? When neither Paul , myself nor SD have even mentioned Brexit [yet] during this thread ....
I'm sure there must be at least a few more nominee's . Keep it up and perhaps we can expect some nice pop-up ads from bivouac and anorak manufacturers to appear
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Re: Lovely new livery for BA 747
PostPosted:Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:53 pm
by condor17
Was BEA , not BOAC ; but think the BOAC livery [ not colour scheme ] was the best ...... Mind you I'm hoping they'll bring back the 'gurls summer uniform ... Pale Blue , or Pink mini dress with a 'looong zip down the front . It eventually migrated to Short Haul for a short time .
Heaven .
PaulSS wrote:
The hodge podge of awful tails we used to fly were embarrassing ......................Completely agree and they were completely useless ...
Milan crew change . Italian driver ..
'' Ee no heer yit '' ... We wait , then asked to be driven round the ramp ....
Us '' There it is '' .
Ital. '' Ee no BA '' !
Warsaw , sitting in the pier . '' Damn thing's not in yet '' looking at 'wot we thought was an Indian job .
Bit later ... '' just maybe that is ours '' .......... Explain that reason for late departure !
Leaving Denver 2 nights ago saw an American A320 in full last TWA livery . V. Smart it looked .
Paul SS , I must be just an old spotter , not yet sad . 'Cos couldn't remember the need for at least one winglet .
It was lucky that on a walk around , that I noticed one winglet was missing . Can we go like this ? MEL says ok ; but ask for an engineer .... Reluctantly one came out to explain that speedtaping over the gaps and open parts was Not needed. '' Mmm '' we thought , but he was correct , nothing further broke off.
rgds condor .