[Iceman]

I think the slogan of Aerotiques - MP3's new sideline - must be "please don't forget to lower your gear; but if you do, don't block our runway, and please let us have your propeller blades"

Funny you should say that. He's had most of my engine and the extremely bent prop. I'm still holding out for a TB20 cake stand .

Iceman

[Chris Martyr]

I would be really surprised at that given the enormity of the task , the cost and the associated increased fuel burn......

Don't worry plus7g , it was only tongue in cheek .

True , you will never see HF aerials on B747 wingtips again . But removing winglets isn't the enormous task that it would at first appear .

The B744 can fly quite legally with either one , or both winglets removed . [ It's in the MEL/CDL]
You are of course correct in that there is indeed a performance penalty involved.

As for the 'blue rinse' toilets ,,,[yuck] Let's just confine nostalgia to the paint jobs , OK....

[Human Factor]

The B744 can fly quite legally with either one , or both winglets removed . [ It's in the MEL/CDL]
You are of course correct in that there is indeed a performance penalty involved.

Or sometimes not. On the standard -400, there is a penalty. On the 747-400SR (Japanese domestic services), they came out of the factory without them.

[Paul_Sengupta]

Do BA seriously believe that anyone gets on a commercial aircraft because of the way that it is painted ?

I once went on the Ryanair 737-200 painted in Jaguar colours.

Just sayin'....

[PaulSS]

The B744 can fly quite legally with either one , or both winglets removed . [ It's in the MEL/CDL]

Can it have both removed? It's a genuine question because my saddo spotter brain seems to recall that one is okay (with a penalty) but you couldn't remove both, for some bizarre reason. I really hope I'm wrong and, therefore, not as sad as I think I might be

[Chris Martyr]

Can it have both removed?

Paul , you are not a "saddo spotter" at all mate . In fact , I stand corrected coz you're spot-on .

Just checked our co. MEL/CDL , Ch. 57-28-01 and it is indeed only one winglet it can fly without .

We'd better stop now , otherwise the others will be calling us both saddo spotters ...

[skydriller]

@PaulSS , @Chris Martyr : You are hereby nominated as this week's sad spotters...

[PaulSS]

Just checked our co. MEL/CDL , Ch. 57-28-01 and it is indeed only one winglet it can fly without .

NOOOooooo

That means Skydriller (and me) are right and I am truly a saddo spotter

Why do I remember absolute trivia like that, when I haven't flown the thing in over 10 years and yet I can't recall what I had for breakfast.....or anything that my wife tells me to do?

I'll get my anorak and notebook and take off with my tartan flask of tea

[mmcp42]

Can it have both removed?

Paul , you are not a "saddo spotter" at all mate . In fact , I stand corrected coz you're spot-on .

Just checked our co. MEL/CDL , Ch. 57-28-01 and it is indeed only one winglet it can fly without .

We'd better stop now , otherwise the others will be calling us both saddo spotters ...

but why not?

[malcolmfrost]

If you want sad spotter, I was watching Manhunt with Martin Clunes and despite all the old mobiles and cars, there was a 737-800 with the massive winglets.....

[kanga]

..

I once went on the Ryanair 737-200 painted in Jaguar colours...

Beechcraft got there first

https://www.aviationphotocompany.com/p4 ... #h7a8485e1

[plus7g]

I know my post will get deleted , but not quite the same is it .... we are talking a company painting their aircraft in a retro ( for that same company) scheme.

[JonathanB]

Why would your post get deleted?

[Chris Martyr]

@PaulSS , @Chris Martyr : You are hereby nominated as this week's sad spotters...

How can we be top of the forums Saddo League ? When neither Paul , myself nor SD have even mentioned Brexit [yet] during this thread ....

I'm sure there must be at least a few more nominee's . Keep it up and perhaps we can expect some nice pop-up ads from bivouac and anorak manufacturers to appear ..

[condor17]

Was BEA , not BOAC ; but think the BOAC livery [ not colour scheme ] was the best ...... Mind you I'm hoping they'll bring back the 'gurls summer uniform ... Pale Blue , or Pink mini dress with a 'looong zip down the front . It eventually migrated to Short Haul for a short time .

Heaven .

PaulSS wrote:
The hodge podge of awful tails we used to fly were embarrassing ......................Completely agree and they were completely useless ...
Milan crew change . Italian driver ..
'' Ee no heer yit '' ... We wait , then asked to be driven round the ramp ....
Us '' There it is '' .
Ital. '' Ee no BA '' !

Warsaw , sitting in the pier . '' Damn thing's not in yet '' looking at 'wot we thought was an Indian job .
Bit later ... '' just maybe that is ours '' .......... Explain that reason for late departure !

Leaving Denver 2 nights ago saw an American A320 in full last TWA livery . V. Smart it looked .

Paul SS , I must be just an old spotter , not yet sad . 'Cos couldn't remember the need for at least one winglet .
It was lucky that on a walk around , that I noticed one winglet was missing . Can we go like this ? MEL says ok ; but ask for an engineer .... Reluctantly one came out to explain that speedtaping over the gaps and open parts was Not needed. '' Mmm '' we thought , but he was correct , nothing further broke off.

rgds condor .