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Buying A Harrier

PostPosted:Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:47 pm
by JAFO
Stumbled across this, don't know if it's been posted before but I enjoyed it.


Re: Buying A Harrier

PostPosted:Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:55 pm
by Lockhaven
The link ain't working

Re: Buying A Harrier

PostPosted:Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:23 pm
by Dave W
It is now: Was missing the leading character in the link.

Re: Buying A Harrier

PostPosted:Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:24 pm
by neilmurg
JAFO wrote:Stumbled across this, don't know if it's been posted before but I enjoyed it. [badlink]
'youtube]-PHcdn8R4d4[/youtube'. You missed a '-'
rats, pipped at the post

Re: Buying A Harrier

PostPosted:Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:00 pm
by Trent772
2016

Sun 'n Fun

Art displayed the SHAR.

Most of the septics hadn't a clue what was about to happen, but almost as soon as it took off, I clocked it as I was enjoying a libation at the time.

It smoked away into the distance, circled around and started with a couple of fast passes. I was damp.

He then came into the hover. I was moist.

He then did that voodoo that SHARs do so well. I blubbed.

He then bowed and climbed away. I came....... :mrgreen:

All I can say is that it nearly stole the show - nothing eclipses Matt Younkin in the Beech 18, soz...

The Vulcan should have gone over to the States, it would still be flying and would for years to come. The UK is administered by morons, but it is probably for the good of the public, as they say :evil:

Re: Buying A Harrier

PostPosted:Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:23 pm
by Sooty25
Could the Vulcan be re-registered in the states and then flown out?

Re: Buying A Harrier

PostPosted:Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:30 am
by pplmeir
That is brilliant, thank you for posting.

Re: Buying A Harrier

PostPosted:Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:19 am
by kanga
Sooty25 wrote:Could the Vulcan be re-registered in the states and then flown out?


I suppose, in theory, if (in some order):

a. FAA would issue a Ferry Permit, and issue necessary Type Rating to adequate crew; and nations necessarily overflown or used for intermediate landing or declared as potential diversions (UK, potentially RoI, Iceland, Denmark for Greenland, Canada ..) gave appropriate permissions
b. HMG would issue an arms export licence (wouldn't want some Argentinian nationalist millionaire to buy it after it had been fully restored to speed and altitude capability :wink: )
[if same millionaire sought to buy up the Wellesbourne one that might be particularly suspicious ..]
c. owners had repaid all funds received for it to National Heritage Lottery Fund; and
d. .. to all donors who had contributed to it, if such an export was, in opinion of Charity Commission, incompatible with the purposes for which the Trust had been set up. Donors would also, presumably have to refund HMT for any tax breaks received.
e. .. and possibly other hurdles I haven't yet thought of, but if pockets are deep enough ..

Yes, US (very) rich private operators of former military aircraft may have more freedom to do so in USA than in UK, but I've not heard of any move nor inclination of USAF to sell off, say, XB70 in their museum to such an operator. However, with present incumbent of White House, the greatest ever negotiator as we all know, who knows .. ? :)

Re: Buying A Harrier

PostPosted:Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:06 pm
by Sooty25
it was just an idle thought that if it lived in the states, it could visit occasionally, like the Canadian Lancaster did.

Any reason why a UK charity can't have a USA base and a part owned, USA registered asset?

I need to stop thinking out loud!

Re: Buying A Harrier

PostPosted:Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:32 pm
by Lefty
At Oskosh 2015, just one aircraft stole the show and got every single one of the 300k spectators standing up and starring at the the display line - two USMC AV8 Harriers.
Not sure if it was the display - or the ear splitting noise level that caught their attention.

Excellent display though. Pretty much copied everything the late (great) John Farley used to do.

Why do we sell of everything great that we develop?

Re: Buying A Harrier

PostPosted:Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:43 pm
by ls8pilot
Great - so glad someone has the time, money & motivation to keep some examples of the Harrier flying.

Re: Buying A Harrier

PostPosted:Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:16 pm
by Graham56
ls8pilot wrote:Great - so glad someone has the time, money & motivation to keep some examples of the Harrier flying.


Yep, but it helped having a positive-thinking NAA to work with. Did he really get FAA approval to fly it based on a single phone call?

Try that here, with say, a Tornado about to come out of service...

Re: Buying A Harrier

PostPosted:Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:25 pm
by Dave W
OK, they aren't flyable any more - but the Pima Air Museum now has a nice array of Harrier family airframes on show (Facebook post from today) - three of the five displayed being UK variants:


Re: Buying A Harrier

PostPosted:Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:03 pm
by Leodisflyer
Has anybody clicked further than that picture? That place looks like paradise.

Re: Buying A Harrier

PostPosted:Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:34 pm
by Dave W
I've been there a few times. Wouldn't argue, and even without the aviation it's not a bad part of the World. :D