Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:21 pm
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I doubt that's a major issue at Knettishall.
Dave W wrote:I doubt that's a major issue at Knettishall.
PeteSpencer wrote:We don’t allow visiting flexwings into our strip principally because of their protracted noise footprint
Note my post says 'visiting microlights'.
Its not the microlights themselves that knob me off but the pilots who, in the past, despite an extensive and often mocked PPR briefing insisted on repeated circuits over all the wrong (but well documented) places. For this reason we excluded them. Peter
chevvron wrote:Genghis the Engineer wrote:Presumably for consistency you also ban visiting Thruster TSTs, X'Air 582s, VP1s, Freds, Curry-Wots... All of which are slower and noisier than modern flexwings.
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Rather than circuit speed, it seems to be runway occupancy time which causes some airfield operators to apply this ban.
If for instance, you have a hard 1,000m runway with access only at each end and the grass is unsuitable for taxying, a landing flexwing might slow to taxying speed and cause a succeeding PC12/Kingair to go-around.
The solution is paint an extra landing threshold at the centre point of the runway for slower/STOL aircraft use.
Genghis the Engineer wrote:Presumably for consistency you also ban visiting Thruster TSTs, X'Air 582s, VP1s, Freds, Curry-Wots... All of which are slower and noisier than modern flexwings.
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matthew_w100 wrote:
Which is it? Are you suggesting that there is a strong correlation between "microlight pilots" and "knobby pilots"? Or is it that many visiting pilots are knobby but because of their noise footprint the microlights have more impact? If the latter I think others have expressed the current situation better than I could. If the former we could be in for an interesting discussion ahead!
Genghis the Engineer wrote:The solution, surely, is just for all involved to show a bit of situational awareness and airmanship!
All of us are trained and capable of being aware of the location and performance of other aircraft, and where to land on a runway to minimise occupancy time. We don't need painted marks to do that.
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If it's a FISO or A/G field, how do you get them to hurry up as you can't instruct them to 'expedite' as you can with ATC ?
flybymike wrote:If it's a FISO or A/G field, how do you get them to hurry up as you can't instruct them to 'expedite' as you can with ATC ?
Can’t a FISO instruct ground movements?
I remember one who remarked to me;
“Get your a rs e in gear...”
pullup wrote:1. Had one pass transit through the overhead at 800 and then immediately descend to low level(about 150 ft) so asked him his intentions. Answer: Descending below circuit traffic.