[Dave W]

Does anyone know whether there is a chart available which shows a simple overview of ALL the Prohibited, Danger and Restricted Areas in France?

What would be even better is if there were two: One that showed those active all the time and another that showed the situation at weekends.

This is for a Presentation, not for flight-planning, so the standard French charts or a SkyDemon screenshot would be too cluttered for my purposes.

I don't mean the very helpful AZBA charts which show the very low altitude R areas, but rather something that shows all of what is in French AIP ENR 5.1 in graphical form.




(Incidentally, when searching before asking this question, I was reminded that there is a French freephone number for the "AZBA" very low level Restricted areas in case you don't have internet access. It is +33 (0)800 24.54.66)

[skydriller]

Well, there is this chart online:

https://www.sia.aviation-civile.gouv.fr/dvd/eAIP_29_MAR_2018/FRANCE/AIRAC-2018-03-29/html/index-fr-FR.html

Which is a lower airspace route chart...

I know many years ago that there was a 1:1 000 000 chart which came with a booklet about restricted areas, but havent seen it since everything came online.

Regards, SD..

[Dave W]

Thanks very much, but that's not quite what I mean.

I did find that one earlier, but I'd really like something that doesn't show any airspace other than the P, D and R areas.

The aim of the intended presentation slide is to show - in a way that can be easily assimilated - how widespread they are, and then to describe (better than my presentation currently does) why you shouldn't worry about it and how to plan.

[Dave W]

Thanks to an anonymous lurker, I now have what I want, and in hindsight it was blindingly obvious.

In SD, simply switch off in Mapping everything except P, D & R Areas. Simples.

Is there anything SkyDemon cannot do? For the next Release: One sugar, please, Tim.




And the Weekend version:

[Tim Dawson]

Anonymous lurker got here before me!

The French really do love their P, R and D areas.

[Genghis the Engineer]

I remember getting very intimidated by the Southern ones when bringing an aeroplane back from Spain, until I realised that the Armee de l'air simply don't get up early, and as long as I did and flew through them all before 1000L, I was absolutely fine.

G

[GrahamB]

Anonymous lurker got here before me!

The French really do love their P, R and D areas.

They do, but close examination of ENR 5.1 usually shows that many of the R’s are only shut at certain times, or perfectly transitable once radio contact is made.

[G-BLEW]

I remember getting very intimidated by the Southern ones when bringing an aeroplane back from Spain, until I realised that the Armee de l'air simply don't get up early, and as long as I did and flew through them all before 1000L, I was absolutely fine.

G

Just in case anyone believes that sweeping statement, it's worth noting that they do sometimes get up early. A quick look at the daily AZBA notifications will tell you if they are planning a grasse matinée or not.

Here's an example.

Ian

[Mick Elborn]

The AZBA Charts are updated on a daily basis here.

[Dave W]

That link's in my opening post! But it doesn't really matter - the AZBA charts are so useful it's worth telling people several times.

[Genghis the Engineer]

I remember getting very intimidated by the Southern ones when bringing an aeroplane back from Spain, until I realised that the Armee de l'air simply don't get up early, and as long as I did and flew through them all before 1000L, I was absolutely fine.

G

Just in case anyone believes that sweeping statement, it's worth noting that they do sometimes get up early. A quick look at the daily AZBA notifications will tell you if they are planning a grasse matinée or not.

Here's an example.

Ian

Well, it worked that week - but yes, I did spend several hours the evening before double checking, and would next time as well.

But, it may yet be a useful starting point for somebody else.

G

[werewolf]

Please use Géoportail (from the IGN = Institut Géographique National).
https://www.geoportail.gouv.fr/
All French maps in a free access.
1. On the top left : click on : 'Cartes'
2. 'Territoires et transports'
3. 'Transports'
4. 'Carte OACI-VFR'
Hope that helps.

[Dave W]

Thanks, @werewolf - that's actually not what I was looking for, but will be very helpful indeed for other reasons.

I didn't know that existed.

[Paul_Sengupta]

I remember getting very intimidated by the Southern ones when bringing an aeroplane back from Spain, until I realised that the Armee de l'air simply don't get up early, and as long as I did and flew through them all before 1000L, I was absolutely fine.

G

Just in case anyone believes that sweeping statement, it's worth noting that they do sometimes get up early. A quick look at the daily AZBA notifications will tell you if they are planning a grasse matinée or not.

Here's an example.

Ian

Well, it worked that week - but yes, I did spend several hours the evening before double checking, and would next time as well.

But, it may yet be a useful starting point for somebody else.

G

Conversely, I've always found when I've been there that they're active early in the morning, all wrapped up and done by 8am or 10am. Which suits my time zone quite well!