[GAFlyer4Fun]

I can find the Deanland change on the AIS website but not Popham or the forthcoming Blackbushe change.

[Outdoor Miner]

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[Sir Morley Steven]

Students ( and pilots) make mistakes. That’s their job. This will cause problems. I just have my fingers crossed they won’t have fatal consequences.
We all remember a request to orbit ending up as a fatal. I have already had one issue at my club caused by someone switching back to 25 presumably so they didn’t have to scroll through all those pesky frequencies.

[Jude098]

Shobdon wont accept non 8.33 after 1st April 2018..... according to a flyer I saw at EGBJ

[CloudHound]

Will Shobdon still accept non-radio after that date?

[neilmurg]

Will Shobdon still accept non-radio after that date?

Only non-8.33kHz radio, not non-25kHz radio...

[Marvin]

AIP SUP 09/2018 now published.

Popham not included though.

[Dave W]

Thanks, Marvin - that's useful.

From there:

3 Supplement Updates
3.1 This Supplement will be revised and a new Supplement published in line with the publication dates set out in the Supplements publication schedule. An electronic copy of this data in comma separated value format (.csv) is available from the CAA’s website:
http://www.caa.co.uk/General-aviation/A ... Hz-radios/

It also points out:

4 Other AIC Sources
4.1 Please note that other AIC sources of information regarding radio channels may be out of date during 2018 and airspace users are advised to refer to this Supplement for latest information. This includes aerodrome plates, and radio frequency cards etc.

[chevvron]

AIP SUP 09/2018 now published.

Popham not included though.

Nor is Blackbushe. The A/D operator has issued a notice giving warning it will change on 28 Feb.

[Alastair]

The AIC also shows that Farnborough tower (122.5) and Farnborough approach (134.350) are due to change within the next 60 days.

The supplemental data at http://www.caa.co.uk/General-aviation/Aircraft-ownership-and-maintenance/8-33-kHz-radios/ shows Farnborough approach as “Conversion Complete” yet it is not due to convert until 28th March.

It also shows Farnborough tower as both “Conversion Complete” (122.780) and “Not yet converted” (122.5). Since the new assignment is 122.780 and the old assignment was 122.5 how can it be both complete and not yet converted? It has in fact converted.

Since both the AIC and the supplemental data are wrong and disagree with each other what reliable source can pilots use?

[kanga]

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Since both the AIC and the supplemental data are wrong and disagree with each other what reliable source can pilots use?

Forumites' postings, of course, as ever .. ?

[GAFlyer4Fun]

Since both the AIC and the supplemental data are wrong and disagree with each other what reliable source can pilots use?

If the usual nav planning shows a 25kHz frequency for any ATSU that might get called going A to B then can either
- pick up the phone and ask them
- email them
- check airfield website.

With all the fuss about 8.33kHz channels, I imagine the airfields will soon tell you if they have moved to 8.33 channels if phone to ask for wx , runway in use, fuel availability, cake status etc (even when PPR not required).

[Alastair]

GAFlyer4Fun, I agree. But at least the data supplied by the CAA and/or NATS should be accurate.

[GAFlyer4Fun]

Agree, but as you know the system is broken for this change over year it is worth the phone call to ask the destination still showing up as 25kHz.

[GolfHotel]

GAFlyer4Fun, I agree. But at least the data supplied by the CAA and/or NATS should be accurate.

I think they have a reputation for being on the ball.