Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:45 am
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Does it still need an instructor to have a 945 or higher rating. to do the signature or has that been dropped as well?
Ian Melville wrote:Does it still need an instructor to have a 945 or higher rating. to do the signature or has that been dropped as well?
Talkdownman wrote:AIUI an FCL.945 FI may still sign a rating revalidation provided he/she did the training flight(s). (I hope that is the case because I have one scheduled for today).
Talkdownman wrote: If another FI had done 55 minutes of the training and I had to make it up to one hour with, say, a circuit 'check', I certainly wouldn't sign it...
Talkdownman wrote:FCL945 'obligations' are all rather fatuous anyway, for there are no 'hoops of fire' to jump through in order to be bestowed the 'privilege'. The authorisation is given away as freely as a toy in a cornflake packet, all somewhat cheap IMHO. Mine suddenly appeared during an MEP renewal, thus effectively rendering me an unpaid regulator on behalf of CAA FCL. I regard that as a bit of a cheeky imposition. AFAIAC revalidation flights are not cost effective, most PPLs seem to want it done for free, and many of my revalidation trainees subsequently ask if they may log it as PIC or PICUS Some cringe at the though of 'defacing' their logbook with the letters 'PUT'.
skydriller wrote:Talkdownman wrote: If another FI had done 55 minutes of the training and I had to make it up to one hour with, say, a circuit 'check', I certainly wouldn't sign it...
Why would you? If you are a Part 945 instructor then you have to have flown the hour to sign off the rating. This is the one thing I thought was clear.
Likewise for an examiner asking for a fee to sign off my licence - if he took care of all the CAA paperwork etc then fine, but if I was expected to do that legwork and it was literally 30 seconds of his time to confirm 12+hrs and a quick signature then I might feel otherwise inside, but certainly wouldnt argue the toss.
malcolmfrost wrote:Likewise for an examiner asking for a fee to sign off my licence - if he took care of all the CAA paperwork etc then fine, but if I was expected to do that legwork and it was literally 30 seconds of his time to confirm 12+hrs and a quick signature then I might feel otherwise inside, but certainly wouldnt argue the toss.
What you would be paying for is the money he/she invested in getting the qualification!
skydriller wrote:Talkdownman wrote: If another FI had done 55 minutes of the training and I had to make it up to one hour with, say, a circuit 'check', I certainly wouldn't sign it...
Why would you? If you are a Part 945 instructor then you have to have flown the hour to sign off the rating. This is the one thing I thought was clear
FCL.740 wrote:— refresher training of at least 1 hour of total flight time with a flight instructor (FI) or a class rating instructor (CRI).
skydriller wrote:Im quite surprised to hear that, is it because you dont feel qualified to do so or is it just a matter of not being paid?
Dave W wrote:FCL.945 or not, all of the hour (minimum) has to be flown with the same instructor regardless of who eventually signs off the licence and form. So the situation Talkdownman describes could never occur.
(2) When applicants hold both a single-engine piston aeroplane-land class rating and a TMG
rating, they may complete the requirements of (1) in either class or a combination thereof,
and achieve revalidation of both ratings.
Dave W wrote:If you, as the instructor, choose to exercise the FCL.945 privileges (you don't have to) then your obligations at that point are as stated.
Talkdownman wrote:Well, I've just done yet another 1119E, obligated or not.