Rob L wrote:I still don't think that "make a short approach" or similar non-CAP413 or non-CAP493 terminology should be used when such phrases are aimed at PPLs of unknown experience in the controlled environment. Especially when it doesn't make sense in plain English either.
Rob, the point I was making is that an ICAO phrase exists for the scenario when a controller doesn’t want his or her traffic bumbling off downwind on a V-bomber circuit. Plain English has its place in certain circumstances but I hate ‘keep it tight’.
I have used ‘make a short approach’ at Gloucester, to good effect, where we have a fairly busy stream of IFR training arrivals to integrate with a busy visual circuit. Probably something along the lines of.... “Make a short approach, number one, traffic is a XXXX at five miles”
There’s no phraseology in MATS Part 1 anymore, it all refers to the error strewn, inconsistent dog’s dinner that is CAP413.