[rogcal]

Wasn't as bad as I thought it may be and fortunately at the same time there was a film on Film4 (Robert Redford as a solo sailor on a sinking boat on the Indian Ocean) to which I channel hopped when the boring bits came on.

[Dave W]

...a healthy degree of cynicism about diminishing value of contributions to the forum.

I agree with this.

The forum used to be a great mix of banter, considered discussion and hard information from people in a position to know, who were known as being in a position to know. All generally -or at least, mostly - in good humour.

It is becoming less and less like that. The Dementors make more noise than the Wizards sometimes.

Several times in the last several months I've tried drafting a Non-Av post along those lines but have always stalled, because I am not sure what we can do about it. Self-policing doesn't work well enough.

[PeteSpencer]

I suppose it's the impetuosity of youth that makes one hyper critical of a programme that deals with a topic that one is intimately involved with.

I can remember being the same many years ago with hospital/medical programmes.

Now I just keep my gob shut and nod sagely.

It'll come , chaps....

Peter

[PeteSpencer]

...a healthy degree of cynicism about diminishing value of contributions to the forum.

I agree with this.

The forum used to be a great mix of banter, considered discussion and hard information from people in a position to know, who were known as being in a position to know. All generally -or at least, mostly - in good humour.

It is becoming less and less like that. The Dementors make more noise than the Wizards sometimes.

Several times in the last several months I've tried drafting a Non-Av post along those lines but have always stalled, because I am not sure what we can do about it. Self-policing doesn't work well enough.

You're so right, Dave: After the recent 'low level deviation from stable approach' thread I was quite taken aback by the level of abusive and inaccurate vitriol heaped on me by PM from all quarters, largely by people who I don't know from a bar of soap.

Shame really: It won't stop me coming here, though .

Peter

[fattony]

When Fry, retard, flaps and bum all appear in one post, I get concerned....

You forgot boobs!

[StuG]

I watched it, as someone doing my PPL training, I enjoyed how it was presented - ultimately if it encourages people into flying then a lot of the first timers will get their first taste in general aviation through the flying clubs and airfields we are supporting, then that should be a great thing for everyone!

[Trent772]

When Fry, retard, flaps and bum all appear in one post, I get concerned....

You forgot boobs!

Re read............


Not sure boobies are a favoured resource

[G-BLEW]

Gawd. Really?

[ozplane]

Apart from the cockpit shots, I thought some of the "air to air" shots were pretty good. Where was the runway in the early training shots with the heading 03? I thought they mentioned Gatwick but that ain't right.

[cirrostratus]

Apart from the cockpit shots, I thought some of the "air to air" shots were pretty good. Where was the runway in the early training shots with the heading 03? I thought they mentioned Gatwick but that ain't right.

Chateauroux

[ozplane]

Thank you.

[rikur_]

Quick curiosity question....
A couple of times in last night's programme there was the scenario where the P2 wasn't authorised to undertake the landing (approach too complex, or too much cross wind) and if I understood correctly in one case the P2 was relatively experienced. Is that sort of restriction normal?
In my time at BA, I did dozens (if not more) jump seat flights and I never recall coming across the scenario where the P2 wasn't authorised to undertake the landing - perhaps I was just oblivious to it.

[Mike Tango]

All this talk of parental finance etc... I remember when, as I think briefly mentioned on the programme, the airlines paid for the training of their ab-initio pilots.

It was a retrograde step when they got away with shifting the burden on to the prospective employee. Even more so with the pay to fly schemes operated by some as I understand it.

I fear the larger ATC employers may ultimately go the same way.

[Josh]

Different airlines have different policies regarding restrictions. It is not unusual to be limited to a certain fraction of the aircraft's crosswind limit until you have a certain number of hours on type. Certain runways, approaches or airfields that are particularly challenging may be restricted to Captains only landings; Funchal, Gibraltar and some of the Greek Islands spring to mind.

Most airlines also require all low visibility operations to be flown by the Captain.

[ianfallon]

I shouldn't worry about any of this commercial pilot stuff - computers will be flying everything shortly