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Beardy Abu Bloke on his travels to the USA

Postby Gerard Clarke » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:20 pm

If the Court in Strasbourg had decided the other way, we would already have had 97 ROG threads of spluttering outrage. The silence of the Forum thus far on this topic rather demonstrates the point that "bloke does blag, gets banged up" is not news or discussion-worthy, whereas the much rarer "bloke gets away with it" provokes heated debate and much purpleness of face.

Just as the Court got it right on Abu Qatada (don't rely on evidence obtained by torture - it's not British), so the Court has got it right on Abu Hamza (uber-tough prisons do not amount to torture - off you go and face trial in the US). The Daily Mail must be spitting blood.

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Postby Propwash » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:27 pm

There is, as I understand it, a three month appeal window still open to these people. Perhaps Rog is like me, waiting to see if the body ever actually gets put on the aircraft and leaves. :wink:

Personally I think today would be a good day to ship them out.

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Postby Skyhawk-N » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:28 pm

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Re: Beardy Abu Bloke on his travels to the USA

Postby Pete L » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:35 pm

Swifter justice might attract more public confidence. Not read today's online Mail yet - that's for tonight - but if they make any point, I suspect it would be that one.
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Postby Gerard Clarke » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:38 pm

Delaying tactics by the git's lawyers have undoubtedly delayed things, but the two governments, US and UK, may also have dragged their feet. Also, the Strasbourg backlog of cases (mostly from`Eastern Europe, not the UK, which wins most of its cases in Strasbourg) has not helped.

The system gets it right more often than not. The assumption here is often to the contrary.


The Daily Mail's take on this is pretty hilarious:-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2128135/Strasbourg-HAD-let-deport-Abu-Hamza-avoid-war-British-establishment.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

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Re: Beardy Abu Bloke on his travels to the USA

Postby Dave Phillips » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:16 pm

Can't we just bring back 'trial by ordeal"? :)
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Postby Timothy » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:22 pm

Propwash wrote:Perhaps Rog is like me

..and you sleep nights? :lol: :lol:
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Postby BlackheathBloke » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:25 pm

Propwash wrote:Personally I think today would be a good day to ship them out.

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Postby Timothy » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:29 pm

Gerard Clarke wrote:The Daily Mail's take on this is pretty hilarious:-

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Postby Gerard Clarke » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:31 pm

Delphic.

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Postby ROG » Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:40 pm

He ain"t gone yet--if ever.--and no doubt mrs beardy will continue to live here drawing her weekly benefits.
Still thousands of other criminals making endless appeals--making lawyers richer--and of course the literally hundreds of thousands of disappeared illegals.
Apparently our border controls are not fit for purpose--words of keith vaz-not mine--well there"s a surprise.

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Postby Pete S » Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:46 pm

They should ship him out before the three month appeal period is up, just in case the judges get cold feet or get nobbled (ducks and runs):

May incur the wrath of European Court and a fine, but IMHO it would be money well spent.
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Postby Gerard Clarke » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:27 pm

ROG, it appears, can never look on the bright side. That's the DM effect for yers.

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Re: Beardy Abu Bloke on his travels to the USA

Postby ROG » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:41 pm

One swallow doesn"t make a spring----it"s a start but we"re only in this situation because of the yoghurt eaters.

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Postby Gerard Clarke » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:46 pm

The yoghurt eaters and, worse still, yoghurt knitters are annoying, but have rather less influence on things than you and they suppose, ROG.

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