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Postby James Chan » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:15 pm

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Postby Flintstone » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:32 pm

Your photo of the white cliffs of the south coast remind me of a an urge I have to fly along them but below clifftop level. One day.....

Did you go any further south into Spain? The thing that always strikes me about that country is how big it is (okay, fourth in Europe) but just how much of the centre is dry and apparently dead. What it needs........is a retail park :D

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Postby Mark R » Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:56 pm

Flintstone wrote:Your photo of the white cliffs of the south coast remind me of a an urge I have to fly along them but below clifftop level. One day.....

Shame you can't do that legally anymore, but it's still pretty good at 500ft.
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Postby Flintstone » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:21 pm

Mark R wrote:
Flintstone wrote:Your photo of the white cliffs of the south coast remind me of a an urge I have to fly along them but below clifftop level. One day.....

Shame you can't do that legally anymore, but it's still pretty good at 500ft.



I was 500 feet away, m'lud. Just not 500 feet above :wink:

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Postby Mark R » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:31 pm

Flintstone wrote:I was 500 feet away, m'lud. Just not 500 feet above :wink:

But it's now 500ft above with EASA :(

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Postby Flintstone » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:22 am

Shush. You're spoiling my fantasy.

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Postby GrahamB » Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:55 am

Mark R wrote:Shame you can't do that legally anymore..


You can in the UK until December 2014. Fill your boots while you can.
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Postby Mark R » Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:24 am

GrahamB wrote:You can in the UK until December 2014. Fill your boots while you can.

Ah good point! I'd completely forgotten that the CAA had elected to defer the implementation.

Flintstone, your dream is still alive!

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Postby akg1486 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:06 pm

Go to Switzerland and Austria to find yourselves some real mountains. No problem finding mountains beside you towering quite high while maintaining a lot more than 500 ft GND. But ok, I haven't seen any white cliffsides like that in the area.

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Postby Paul_Sengupta » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:59 am

akg1486 wrote:Go to Switzerland and Austria to find yourselves some real mountains. No problem finding mountains beside you towering quite high while maintaining a lot more than 500 ft GND. But ok, I haven't seen any white cliffsides like that in the area.


Better still, find an airfield among the mountains, then you don't have to maintain 500ft as you'd be taking off or landing. In fact, when I fly into Rhigos I'm usually downwinding alongside the mountain well below the top.

But the cliffs are great. Depends on how much you trust your engine as to how low over the sea you go. Or take two engines. Mike M and I did a photoshoot in two Bulldogs with the ex-boss of Beagle in one aircraft with the backdrop of the cliffs.

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Postby Dutch experiment » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:55 pm

Very nice picture, but why did you not put the location in the text box? Like the final on your first picture.......great but where was it?

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Postby James Chan » Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:42 pm

Did you go any further south into Spain?


We didn't this time round. There is a plan to do so in future!

great but where was it?


Birmingham? It should be in the text box now.
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Postby The Westmorland Flyer » Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:53 pm

akg1486 wrote:Go to Switzerland and Austria to find yourselves some real mountains. No problem finding mountains beside you towering quite high while maintaining a lot more than 500 ft GND.

No need to go that far. Plenty of places in the Lake District and Scotland where it's possible to fly well below the mountain tops completely legally. Living near the Lake District it is fairly common practise for me!

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Postby phijip » Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:25 pm

Also, I was not aware that there was no minimum altitude for VFR in Austria , but I didn't check the AIP. Is there?

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Postby phil_socata » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:19 pm

phijip wrote:Also, I was not aware that there was no minimum altitude for VFR in Austria , but I didn't check the AIP. Is there?


It's 500 ft AGL or, in case of "congested areas", 1000 ft above the highest obstacles within a 600-metres-radius (AIP ENR 1.1.).

Of course, many of the official "bad weather routes" in the Alpine valleys would be unusable if you obey these rules word-by-word. Prosecutions seem to occur only in really conspicuous cases ...


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