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Who is depicted in this statue?

Postby Colonel Panic » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:46 pm

Are there any historians or classicists that can identify the subject of this statue? It is about 4 feet tall and was installed in a niche in a well posh private house in London in about 1913.

Or would it just be a "generic" depiction of an angelic girl? I know little about this sort of thing. :oops:

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Postby flybymike » Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:01 pm

Thread titles ending in prepositions is something up with which the forum pedants will not put.

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Re: Who is depicted in this statue?

Postby Colonel Panic » Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:39 pm

Now corrected :oops: :D

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Postby Timothy » Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:47 pm

I wonder if it should be "Whom is depicted" on the grounds that some (unknown) artist is the subject and the girl the object?

Not sure, it's complex.
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Re: Who is depicted in this statue?

Postby Keef » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:37 pm

Deffo not "Whom is...". The verb "to be" is intransitive (or was, last time I looked).

The statue doesn't seem to be holding anything specific to identify her, or wearing a recognisable garb, so I'd guess she's a random female.

If you know where she is, there may be a reference to her there.
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Re: Who is depicted in this statue?

Postby Colonel Panic » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:40 pm

I know where she was, but at some time between 1913 and now "she" has been removed. The private home has changed hands several times since, so no chance of asking the owners either.

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Re: Who is depicted in this statue?

Postby Sir Morley Steven » Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:52 am

While the pose is classical the face is contemporary (to 1913) and it appears to be of a teenager.
My guess is that it is the daughter of the original owner.
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Postby Ian Melville » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:33 am

Not sure about that Sir, would you put up a statue of your daughter in a skimpy outfit now, never mind in 1913?

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Re: Who is depicted in this statue?

Postby Sir Morley Steven » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:53 am

Not now, no. The world was bloody weird back then. Have a look at some art nouveau and also late pre raphaelite stuff. Plenty of scantily clad nubiles and a quick Wiki suggests familial connections.
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Postby Grumpy One » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:34 pm

Could be a trick of perspective, but the head doesn't seem to match the body - her neck's too long too.
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Postby Pete S » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:50 pm

Sir Morley Steven wrote:Not now, no. The world was bloody weird back then. Have a look at some art nouveau and also late pre raphaelite stuff. Plenty of scantily clad nubiles and a quick Wiki suggests familial connections.
And they're all dead so they can't sue me!



Ain't that the truth:

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Postby spaughty » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:43 pm

On the off-chance, I tried a google search for "visually similar images".

This was typical of the results!

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Postby Pianorak » Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:58 pm

Pete S wrote:
Sir Morley Steven wrote:Not now, no. The world was bloody weird back then. Have a look at some art nouveau and also late pre raphaelite stuff. Plenty of scantily clad nubiles and a quick Wiki suggests familial connections.
And they're all dead so they can't sue me!



Ain't that the truth:

When I first Googled GAYAC (our Arrer reg) I got a bit of a shock.

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Only a bit of a shock? :roll:
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Postby Sir Morley Steven » Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:25 pm

Pianorak wrote:
Pete S wrote:
Sir Morley Steven wrote:Not now, no. The world was bloody weird back then. Have a look at some art nouveau and also late pre raphaelite stuff. Plenty of scantily clad nubiles and a quick Wiki suggests familial connections.
And they're all dead so they can't sue me!



Ain't that the truth:

When I first Googled GAYAC (our Arrer reg) I got a bit of a shock.

Peter


Only a bit of a shock? :roll:
http://www.bridgemanart.com/asset/16303 ... h_context=

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Re: Who is depicted in this statue?

Postby Colonel Panic » Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:57 pm

Sir Morley Steven wrote:While the pose is classical the face is contemporary (to 1913) and it appears to be of a teenager.
My guess is that it is the daughter of the original owner.

The owner of the house, C H StJ Hornby, married a 21 year old lady in 1898, so unlikely to be her, and they had no female offspring.

CHStJH founded the Ashendene Press, so perhaps it could have been a depiction of The Fairie Queene, or something similar? (My knowledge of such being severely limited).

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