Sunday 26 May 2013 07:24 UTC

Latest FLYER headlines:
Cessna's 182 JT-A makes first production flight  -  Aspen Flight Display selected for Piper aircraft  -  NATS launches infringement awareness app  
More news

Beardy Abu Bloke on his travels to the USA

This is the place for anything not connected with aviation. Strict rules of engagement apply. The moderators' decision is final.
User avatar
BlackheathBloke
Referee
 
Posts: 3474
Joined: Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:13 pm
Location: Here, there and everywhere

Postby BlackheathBloke » Wed May 02, 2012 10:24 am

Some interesting stats re the ECHR.

Seems they're picking on us. :wink:

ECHR stats
Guaranteed 100% iFree

Quite possibly sent from my Nexus 7 which cost 400 quid less than your iPad.

Capitalisation is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse

User avatar
Gerard Clarke
Grumpy ****
 
Posts: 16826
Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:06 pm
Location: London

Postby Gerard Clarke » Wed May 02, 2012 7:53 pm

Completely skewed reporting pursuing an agenda, and suckering in people who want to believe the worst. Look up the real overall stats. The UK wins most of its cases in the Court.

User avatar
Dave Phillips
Nice wife...
 
Posts: 10087
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2003 5:52 pm
Location: EGIEZXAA

Re: Beardy Abu Bloke on his travels to the USA

Postby Dave Phillips » Wed May 02, 2012 8:06 pm

Has he gone yet?
Fly Safely

FE(A), PPL(H)

User avatar
Gerard Clarke
Grumpy ****
 
Posts: 16826
Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:06 pm
Location: London

Postby Gerard Clarke » Wed May 02, 2012 8:07 pm

More balanced figures:-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/jan/27/european-court-human-rights-judgments#data

• The court ruled against the United Kingdom on eight occasions in 2011, compared with 159 violations found against Turkey, 121 against Russia and 105 against Ukraine
• Of Western European nations, Greece and Italy had the largest number of adverse rulings, at 69 and 32 respectively
• The human rights violations most frequently found by the court were in the length of proceedings (341), the right to liberty and security (241) and the right to fair trial (211)
• The court found 70 instances in which the right to life had been improperly violated – 53 of which were found against Russia
• Russia also had the most rulings against it for inhuman or degrading treatment, at 62 of 183, and with a total of 488 was the country with the most human rights violations in 2011
• The ECHR handed out judgment on 1,157 cases over the course of 2011, of which 19 related to the UK. Of these, the court found against UK had violated at least one human right on eight occasions. Nine of the remaining cases were found not to have violated human rights law, while two cases were "friendly settlements"
• The UK was found against for lack of effective investigation on five occasions, not to have offered a fair trial on three occasions, and to have failed its duty on prohibition of torture twice

The majority of cases brought to the court are struck out as inadmissible without receiving a full hearing. In the UK's case, 97% of cases filed at the court between 1966 and 2010 were dismissed during this preliminary stage.

JoeC
Lost Cause
 
Posts: 5782
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:50 pm
Location: Sheffield

Postby JoeC » Wed May 02, 2012 9:22 pm

But they're all FACTS, Gerard, we want the TRUTH!

User avatar
BlackheathBloke
Referee
 
Posts: 3474
Joined: Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:13 pm
Location: Here, there and everywhere

Postby BlackheathBloke » Wed May 09, 2012 10:21 am

Today's the day.

Although the supreme beings of the ECHR don't have to release their reasons or even bother to tell us their verdict today?!

Kangaroo court, I hope there is an aircraft warming it's engines and filing a flight plan to Amman as I type so whatever these eurocrats say he's on his way.......
Guaranteed 100% iFree

Quite possibly sent from my Nexus 7 which cost 400 quid less than your iPad.

Capitalisation is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse

User avatar
BlackheathBloke
Referee
 
Posts: 3474
Joined: Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:13 pm
Location: Here, there and everywhere

Postby BlackheathBloke » Wed May 09, 2012 4:11 pm

Well the ECHR have told him to bog off.

It now seems we've got him for up to a year whilst he issues other legal challenges. :roll:
Guaranteed 100% iFree

Quite possibly sent from my Nexus 7 which cost 400 quid less than your iPad.

Capitalisation is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse

User avatar
Dave Phillips
Nice wife...
 
Posts: 10087
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2003 5:52 pm
Location: EGIEZXAA

Re: Beardy Abu Bloke on his travels to the USA

Postby Dave Phillips » Wed May 09, 2012 5:37 pm

I hope they check his underpants.
Fly Safely

FE(A), PPL(H)

User avatar
Gerard Clarke
Grumpy ****
 
Posts: 16826
Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:06 pm
Location: London

Postby Gerard Clarke » Wed May 09, 2012 9:15 pm

BlackheathBloke wrote:Well the ECHR have told him to bog off.

It now seems we've got him for up to a year whilst he issues other legal challenges. :roll:


Crikey, your glass really is half empty, eh? He won't get a year.

User avatar
BlackheathBloke
Referee
 
Posts: 3474
Joined: Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:13 pm
Location: Here, there and everywhere

Postby BlackheathBloke » Thu May 10, 2012 12:04 am

Gerard Clarke wrote:
BlackheathBloke wrote:Well the ECHR have told him to bog off.

It now seems we've got him for up to a year whilst he issues other legal challenges. :roll:


Crikey, your glass really is half empty, eh? He won't get a year.


That's what the report said, not me !

I'm just wondering on whether they'll get rid of him pre-Olympics and risk some nutter trying to take revenge or just hold onto him until after it's all over?
Guaranteed 100% iFree

Quite possibly sent from my Nexus 7 which cost 400 quid less than your iPad.

Capitalisation is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse

ROG
fORUM aDDICT
 
Posts: 5268
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2003 6:12 pm

Re: Beardy Abu Bloke on his travels to the USA

Postby ROG » Thu May 10, 2012 8:17 am

Surely there must be lots of legal challenges left for some lawyers to make thousands from. Meanwhile presumably he and his family are still drawing numerous benefits. It"s amazing that someone who hates the UK is so reluctant to depart.
I would have thought that he could have been shoved onto a plane after the last ruling.

User avatar
Gerard Clarke
Grumpy ****
 
Posts: 16826
Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:06 pm
Location: London

Postby Gerard Clarke » Thu May 10, 2012 8:22 am

The most likely scenario is that the Home Secretary will certify under a statutory procedure that any further claim by Q to remain is manifestly unfounded. That will allow him a one shot challenge in the Administrative Court. A hearing will be arranged rapidly. He will lose. That will be the end of it.

It is all extraordinarily frustrating, but he is on his way.

ROG
fORUM aDDICT
 
Posts: 5268
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2003 6:12 pm

Re: Beardy Abu Bloke on his travels to the USA

Postby ROG » Thu May 10, 2012 8:57 am

Gerard --let"s hope that you"re right--according to radio comments this morning could be another year and millions more taxpayers cash--hope that"s not so. Liberty etc are really worried that he might not get the brand of cornflakes he prefers if sent to Jordan,
Beleive it when it happens!

User avatar
Pete L
Lost Cause
 
Posts: 6043
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2003 3:51 pm
Location: Back in a purple xxxxxx red and white spaceship, over Yatton

Re: Beardy Abu Bloke on his travels to the USA

Postby Pete L » Thu May 10, 2012 11:10 am

In honour of GC's Brummy roots:

"We've already said goodbyeeeeeee..."
Cheering up a bit with grumpy spells later

User avatar
Dave Phillips
Nice wife...
 
Posts: 10087
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2003 5:52 pm
Location: EGIEZXAA

Re: Beardy Abu Bloke on his travels to the USA

Postby Dave Phillips » Mon May 28, 2012 2:57 pm

Aunt Betty is reporting that deportation will be delayed for four months. :yawn:
Fly Safely

FE(A), PPL(H)

PreviousNext

Return to Non aviation stuff

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], matthew_w100 and 10 guests

click here Login / Register