Gerard Clarke wrote:OK, Jim and V6g have converted me. We must march for Justice for our Chavs.
Just in case anyone else is being surprisingly serious, that was, er, a joke.
Being serious for half a second, the protection of real minorities from unfair treatment by the majority is very important, but the currency of minority protection is devalued by people being over sensitive about jokes about voluntary behaviour, where the joke is not also associated with, for example, ethnicity, or some other attribute which cannot be chosen. If you make a crack about all Jews being mean or all black Africans being crooks, then you are being racist. If you make a crack about chavs wearing fake Burberry hats, you are laughing at someone's chosen lifestyle. Calling someone a Paki is offensive. Calling someone a Chav, or a Sloane, or hick, or a Bridge and Tunnel person may be offensive to that person, but the nature of the mockery is entirely different from that involved in using a racial slur.
No probs with mockery or name calling, it's the shooting that worried me.
You know when at the cinema or on telly you see people getting shot, blown up, eaten by monsters, squished by large objects etc? Clue: unless it's on the news, it ain't real.
Gerard Clarke wrote:You know when at the cinema or on telly you see people getting shot, blown up, eaten by monsters, squished by large objects etc? Clue: unless it's on the news, it ain't real.
Shot by the bad guys who get caught, or otherwise deemed "bad", or the good guys in the pursuit of just cause .
The clip was too much like Hungerford or Columbine, not withstanding the commentary. Maybe cos I first watched it with the sound off?
Gerard Clarke wrote:You know when at the cinema or on telly you see people getting shot, blown up, eaten by monsters, squished by large objects etc? Clue: unless it's on the news, it ain't real.
Shot by the bad guys who get caught, or otherwise deemed "bad", or the good guys in the pursuit of just cause .
The clip was too much like Hungerford or Columbine, not withstanding the commentary. Maybe cos I first watched it with the sound off?
...it was the only one I watched twice and gurgled with laughter throughout.
I think some of you are also missing the point that by the very fact that it has been BANNED it is getting far more airtime than if it had not been. A very clever bit of viral marketing as far as I can see. I bet they knew all along it would come to this and now Paddy Power is far better known as a result.
By using humour, it also manages to transpose its image a million miles away from the grubby image of the average turf accountant.
Gerard Clarke wrote:I felt a really strange whooshy thing just then. I put it down to the dodgy cheapo Waitrose claret, but WTF.
It's more likely to have been the baked beans.
Jim Jones wrote:You Sloans just don't get it, do you?
"Chav"' if applied to oneself is OK, when applied to you by someone else based on their opinion, I think that's not a choice. When they then use violence based solely on their choice to judge you as "Chav", well.......
Ok, would you prefer "oik"?
v6g wrote:The UK is descending towards full-blown class apartheid
You mean as opposed to the situation over the last 1000 years?
v6g wrote:Is that really the kind of society you all see your future in?
Yup. Unfortunately. It isn't "class" as in "upper", "middle", "working" any more, it's more "classy", whether people are civilised or whether they're anti social.
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