RT brush-up

[greggj]

So it has been a year since I flew. But I want to sparkle this time at least in one department (for flying itself, I'll have a guy sitting next to me). That dept is RT.
I'm guessing for the first few lessons it won't be circuits, but basic handling on an aircraft I never flew before.

So that means leaving EGAD (Newtownards) to the north or east, calling EGAC (Belfast City) and informing them about the 'vfr training flight, not above 2k feet vfr'. I wouldn't mind trying to do the RT on this. But that means I got few things to get back in my head before Tuesday. Apart from listening to the radio at the airport tomorrow, what else could I do ? Any ideas ?

[RMurphy195]

I guess you've had a peek at the relevant bits of CAP413 from the CAA web site, plus there's a cap 413 "quick reference guide to uk phraseology" that I've found useful http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/AviationGu ... LOCKED.pdf

[Rob P]

Greggj, cool as it may be to use ICAO identifiers for airfields is there any chance you could actually use names so that those of us of a non-anal disposition who haven't learned all of them off by heart can follow what you are talking about? Please?

Not important, just a nice politeness.

Rob P

[ZG 862]

EGAD = Newtownards
EGAC = Belfast City

Z

[Rob P]

Many thanks Z

Rob P

[greggj]

I've edited my original post, so you're welcomed RobP

[Rob P]

Many thanks

[Barry Ward]

Here is a test that you may find interesting.
You may not be aware but here in France if you wish to travel outside France with your PPL say to the UK, Italy Spain etc you need to pass the English proficiency test.
The French DGAC run these tests and have on their web site a couple of test examples.
If you want to try these tests from the link below first print out the PDF. There are 10 test questions. You then listen to the audio and see if you can write in the spaces what you think you hear. Each test is repeated twice. Don't look at the last page of the PDF until you have finished as they are the correct answers.

http://www.developpement-durable.gouv.f ... 1-028.html

Have fun!!

[Sir Morley Steven]

There's a GA flying supplement to CAP413. There are sound files of examples all the way through it and also in CAP 413 itself.

[greggj]

I went through the CAP413 doc RMurphy suggesed. Also dug out my old notes from RT course. Because this is exactly what I think I'll be doing in terms of RT (of course the aircraft will be different now):


Newtownards radio, Golf BNKR Requesting radio check 128.3 and airfield information.

G - KR Readability 5 runway 22, qnh 997 millibars.
G-KR taxing 22 hold
G-KR ready for departure
G-KR lining up for departure - optional
G-KR Taking off (22 - optional)

G-KR leaving the ZONE to the south east, changing to belfast approach 130.850 (need to say 8 5 0, because there's at least two digits after the decimal point).

Belfast Approach G BNKR Requesting Basic service
<G-KR Pass your message>

C - call sign (always given)
T - type (initial call only)
R - route (from/to - initial call only)
P - current position (always given)
A - altitude (always given)
C - Conditions (vmc/ifr) - initial call only
E - estimate (next position) - always given
R - request (basic service/zone transit) - only if required .

C - G-KR (the sign as said by the controller, if shortened by him , shorten it, otherwise don't)
T - C152
R - operating over the peninsula
P - currently over mount steward
A - not above 3000 ft
C - VMC
(no need for E, and requested the basic service already).


G-KR QNH 997 Millibars , Remain outside controlled airspace , report complete.

Basic service. QNH 996 Millibars, G-KR



G-KR over mount steward , request change to newtownards 128.3

Freecall Newtownards radio 128.3, G-KR

128.3 - G-KR


I'm guessing in terms of the RT nothing changed in around that.

[ZG 862]

Hectopascals!

[greggj]

cm of mercury ;>

[Rob P]

It all looks pretty familiar greggj, but as one who hasn't studied 413 for a while I can't help wondering about this little gem

R - request (basic service/zone transit) - only if required .

If one had nothing to request of an ATSU, I wonder why you would be talking to them?

Rob P

[greggj]

True

[riverrock]

I believe that "conditions" is actually which flight rules you are following. So VFR or IFR. You could be flying IFR in VMC (with the appropriate rating) but the controller wants to know IFR.

On Pass your message, I would have your route as "From Newtonards to Newtonards"

something like:
C - G-KR (the sign as said by the controller, if shortened by him , shorten it, otherwise don't)
T - C152
R - From Newtonards to Newtonards
P - over mount steward
A - at altitude 2500ft QNH 993 Hecopascals
C - VFR
operating over the peninsula below 3000ft
Request Basic service

Just studying for my RT Practical exam...