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Quadrantal rule in plain English please.

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Quadrantal rule in plain English please.

Postby Floobie » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:13 am

Hi guys,

I have my Air Law exam tomorrow and am have been desperately cramming all week. My brain seems to switch off every time I read anything about the Quadrantal rule. Anyone care to have a stab at translating it. My understanding is that put simply it means you fly at certain Flight Levels depending on your heading. Is that right?

Thanks

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Postby GrahamB » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:18 am

Floobie wrote:Hi guys,
My understanding is that put simply it means you fly at certain Flight Levels depending on your heading. Is that right?

Not quite.

You fly at a level according to your Magnetic Track (not Heading).

Good luck.
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Postby RMurphy195 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:47 pm

I remembered this one by simply drawing the little circular diagram a few times from memory until I got it right, and visualising it with little littany going around the circle from the top clockwise "ODD, ODD + 500, EVEN, EVEN +500" to help me memorise the detail Then re-drew it from memory in the exam then answered the question from my drawing!

Best of luck and I hope that helps.

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Postby johnm » Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:46 pm

Is being abolished anyway :D
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Postby weirdfish » Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:10 pm

johnm wrote:Is being abolished anyway :D


No-one's told the exam board :)

I had a question on it earlier this year, and I seem to remember it was slightly tricky wording to get you to the magnetic track of due north.
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Postby Paul_Sengupta » Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:10 pm

Easterners are odd.

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Postby Floobie » Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:05 pm

Well the good news is I passed. 93 percent which was much better than I was expecting. I don't think the question came up in the end!! Thanks for making me look up the difference between magnetic track and heading (which I'm sure seems elementary to some people on here). Next milestone first solo..... :?

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Postby weirdfish » Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:34 pm

Well done, that's the worst exam to study for. :thumleft:
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Postby mo0g » Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:40 pm

Floobie wrote:Well the good news is I passed. 93 percent which was much better than I was expecting. I don't think the question came up in the end!! Thanks for making me look up the difference between magnetic track and heading (which I'm sure seems elementary to some people on here). Next milestone first solo..... :?


Don't know if you've done this bit yet, but in case not re: headings;

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Compass heading + Deviation => Magnetic heading <= Variation + True heading

So the magnetic heading is the compass heading + deviation,
or the magnetic heading = true heading + the magnetic variation.
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Postby force8 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:56 pm

Blimey! I always thought a mnemonic was supposed to make it easier. Bit of a tongue twister ain't it? :?

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Postby greggj » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:48 am

Paul_Sengupta wrote:Easterners are odd.

w0t ?
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Postby Paul_Sengupta » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:24 am

greggj wrote:
Paul_Sengupta wrote:Easterners are odd.

w0t ?


Not you, you're only a little odd...was taught to me by someone in the US.

Means if you're going east, it's an odd number of thousand feet.

The corollary was that westerners are *even* odder. Even thousands of feet going west.

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Re: Quadrantal rule in plain English please.

Postby greggj » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:28 pm

I'm not odd, I'm extraordinary :P (that's what moving from east to west does to you , you see).

But jokes aside, that's a good way to remember it.
Especially since I'll need to do my airlaw again, now that I'm thinking about going back to the training.
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Postby Full Metal Jackass » Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:42 pm

mo0g wrote:
Floobie wrote:Well the good news is I passed. 93 percent which was much better than I was expecting. I don't think the question came up in the end!! Thanks for making me look up the difference between magnetic track and heading (which I'm sure seems elementary to some people on here). Next milestone first solo..... :?


Don't know if you've done this bit yet, but in case not re: headings;

Cadbury's Dairy Milk Very Tasty

Compass heading + Deviation => Magnetic heading <= Variation + True heading

So the magnetic heading is the compass heading + deviation,
or the magnetic heading = true heading + the magnetic variation.


I prefer the one I was taught:

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True +/- Variation = Magnetic.... Magnetic +/- Deviation = Compass...... :D
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