Bust airspace (groan)

[ROG]

Only done it once--provided you apologise--grovel a bit--normally ok. The ones who end up with problems are those who argue when in the wrong.

[Irv Lee]

The ones who end up with problems are those who argue

If they are in the group who fly without Mode C either through their 'choice' or lack of airmanship or equipment, what makes you think they'd always be around to argue afterwards?

[Morley]

Only done it once--provided you apologise--grovel a bit--normally ok. The ones who end up with problems are those who argue when in the wrong.

Such as the pr@ at Solent who told Farnborough I had infringed and that he was going to report me. I knew I hadnt but telephoned farnboro' anyway who confirmed it so I rang him (well my stude did) and he was told "i'll let you off this time"

What a whancker.

[Anon]

Perpetrated slight cock up departing Cherbourg today, 'cos I misread the French chart. I'd filed a flight plan for FL050 and was cleared by Cherbourg to depart and asked to report leaving the zone, what I hadn't twigged was that I should have stayed below 2500 ft until transferred to Deauville Approach.

Reading the chart again I can see how I got that wrong, but it's interesting that UK clearances under these circumstances usually include an altitude restriction, French ones don't.

Yet another lesson learned.

[JonathanB]

Did they berate you for it? Usually the French either won't care, or you had an implicit clearance despite talking to Cherbourg and not Deauville!

[Anon]

Let's just say the nice lady controller drew it to my attention and I apologised like an English gent should I'm guessing they saw the Mode S return and invited the Cherbourg controller to pass me on.

[AndyR]

If it is the nice Deauville lady controller who helped me out a couple of months ago, then you were in good hands...