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by PaulB » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:37 pm
Now that AndyR has got his new job, it's got me curious about ILS calibration.
What is it that determines when an ILS needs calibrating? Obviously in the case of a new one it'll need doing, but does it need doing periodically thereafter?
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by chevvron » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:48 pm
A 'routine' flight check of ILS (and PAR for that matter) should be carried out every 180 days. Limited extensions to this may be granted if the weather is unsuitable for the flight check. If there is an incident where the performance of the ILS might be taken into account, a special flight check may be called for.
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by vintage ATCO » Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:11 pm
. . . . such as post-accident. Have known four occasions when that has been necessary.
Also if you do some significant maintenance to the antenna arrays or such then it will need calibrating, and in the case of a Cat II/III system, run for so many hours at Cat I before it can be used for Cat II/III.
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by matspart3 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:32 pm
There are also daily and monthly, 'on airfield' engineering checks, and continuous monitoring of the signal, which will automatically shut off if it goes outside the correct parameters.
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by vintage ATCO » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:34 pm
Ahhh, the Far Field and Near Field monitors . . . . You only have the former if you're Cat II/III 
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by Pugh Pugh » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:50 pm
Please do tell, Vintage, of the Near and Far. 
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by davey » Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:07 pm
The Ils is checked periodically at Bournemouth, probably 6 monthly, and for some reason everytime this happens we end up taking off and landing on the downwind runway ???
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by Dave Phillips » Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:11 pm
....... and the grass needs cutting.
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by Cumulo-nimbus » Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:12 pm
Is that because the calibrater flies the reciprocal? I remember watching at LHR on easterlies, oh so many years ago, and a lot if sniffy Umerikans (queueing up in their 707s, DC7Cs, DC8s and Convair Coronardos  ) wouldn't accept a take-off clearance (with an early turn out) into the face of the calibrating Dove. 
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by Frank Leopald » Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:24 pm
Dove? !!! My you are old. Mind you the Prentice was better.
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by Pete S » Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:30 pm
The Dove's been dangling from the roof of Airspace at Duxford (right above the Comet) for a few years now...........
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by AndyR » Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:31 pm
Cheers all. Saved me some typing 
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by vintage ATCO » Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:58 pm
Pugh Pugh wrote:Please do tell, Vintage, of the Near and Far. 
For the terminally bored . . . . . Near Field Monitor - antenna on a small pole in front of the localiser. It is that which detects an infringement of the Critical Area around the loc (or more correctly, it detects a disruption to the loc signal). The loc then drops to standby and then off if the disruption is still there. Far Field Monitor - another antenna at the threshold end of the runway pointing at the loc. Only applicable to Cat II/III systems (I think still). More monitoring, more grumpiness if the signal is disrupted. More boring information . . . . ILS is run on battery power with the lead acid batteries being constantly charged from the mains. This ensures that in the event of a power failure at least the one on the approach can land. For Cat II/III systems, during LVP, power is provided from a generator with the mains supply being the back up. This ensures the required less than one second break in the event of a failure. You don't arf get through a lot of gas oil when in constant LVP . . . .
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by matspart3 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:17 pm
We've gone all fancy these days vATCO...power consumption is now low enoug to run on mains with a UPS and a standby generator for Cat 1 LVPs.
AndyR you still need to explain the need to hoon down the runway at 140kt and 50ft as an 'essential part of the checks' ; )
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by Dave Phillips » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:49 am
Aaaaah, IRFIS lights.
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