Thursday 05 December 2013 15:54 UTC
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May I ask a differnent question, related but still slightly OT:
If, for example on a weekend, I want to cross an ATZ (lying within a MATZ), call up the relevant controller and don't get a reply, can I assume the military aifield is not active? Can I then cross the ATZ?
Unless....you are flying at the aerodrome. In that instance you are not in contact with anyone yet you are inside the ATZ. I am thinking of examples like doing circuits at a military aerodrome during the weekend, but I suppose in that instance you have already booked in prior to the end of ATC for the weekend and have permission to be there even though the tower is shut.
Thanks, that is what I assumed. By "permission" I guess you mean "prior to the flight", or is there any way to get this permision in flight (certainly you won't get it from FIS, right)?
I believe in the case of Boscombe Down, they either use, or monitor the approach/radar frequency on the weekend for the Grobs and such. You can speak to them on it sometimes if they're doing circuit training - though that stays within the ATZ.
You mean since Lyneham closed?
For an ATZ:
Rule 45 states that an aircraft shall not fly, take-off or land within the ATZ of an aerodrome unless the commander of that aircraft has obtained the permission of the air traffic control unit at the aerodrome or – where there is no air traffic control unit – has obtained from the aerodrome flight information unit at the aerodrome, information to enable the flight within the zone to be conducted with safety or – where there is no air traffic control unit nor aerodrome flight information service unit – has obtained information from the air/ground radio station at that aerodrome to enable the flight to be conducted with safety.
What if there is no A/G person on the "G" part of it, and communication is Air to Air?
I can't think of any, but I may well be proved wrong, there is quite a breadth of knowledge here as is proved time and time again.
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